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	<title>Comments on: In memory of CESIL</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew Jacobs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll see if I can find the time to create a SWING version of the Visual CESIL GUI. There should be a Java runtime available for the Pi, its certainly an option on other ARM Linux distributions. My Pi is ordered but I have no idea when it will be delivered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll see if I can find the time to create a SWING version of the Visual CESIL GUI. There should be a Java runtime available for the Pi, its certainly an option on other ARM Linux distributions. My Pi is ordered but I have no idea when it will be delivered.</p>
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		<title>By: closingbraces</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m delighted to see the current moves to re-introduce real programming into school, and quite tickled by the idea of CESIL on Raspberry Pi.

It&#039;s quite possible that the &quot;Java based command line CESIL for Windows &amp; *NIX&quot; version of Visual CESIL by Andrew John Jacobs at http://www.obelisk.demon.co.uk/cesil/ could run on Raspberry Pi, or might only need minor adjustments to get it running. At worst something similar probably wouldn&#039;t be that hard to write from scratch.

However, I suspect that these days you&#039;d need something far more whizz-bang for anyone to be interested in it - though perhaps CESIL or something like it might still be useful as one part of a wider curriculum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m delighted to see the current moves to re-introduce real programming into school, and quite tickled by the idea of CESIL on Raspberry Pi.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite possible that the &#8220;Java based command line CESIL for Windows &amp; *NIX&#8221; version of Visual CESIL by Andrew John Jacobs at <a href="http://www.obelisk.demon.co.uk/cesil/" rel="nofollow">http://www.obelisk.demon.co.uk/cesil/</a> could run on Raspberry Pi, or might only need minor adjustments to get it running. At worst something similar probably wouldn&#8217;t be that hard to write from scratch.</p>
<p>However, I suspect that these days you&#8217;d need something far more whizz-bang for anyone to be interested in it &#8211; though perhaps CESIL or something like it might still be useful as one part of a wider curriculum.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a thought... wouldn&#039;t CESIL be a great thing to start with on one of the new Raspberry Pis .....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought&#8230; wouldn&#8217;t CESIL be a great thing to start with on one of the new Raspberry Pis &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have enjoyed reading comments about CESIL and other school computer education items. I was one of the pioneers teaching about computers in a Rayleigh,  Essex school as early as May 1966. I had made a switch operated binary adder and showed that in Maths lessons before doing some computer stuff. None of it official though. I&#039;m 69 now and pleased to see programming and Computer Science returning to schools&#039; timetables. I did teach IT but was concerned about being a possible company rep. ie promoting on companies IT software.  

To me programming is the ultimate computer game!!!  Making &quot;it&quot; do as it is told even if the task is trivial.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have enjoyed reading comments about CESIL and other school computer education items. I was one of the pioneers teaching about computers in a Rayleigh,  Essex school as early as May 1966. I had made a switch operated binary adder and showed that in Maths lessons before doing some computer stuff. None of it official though. I&#8217;m 69 now and pleased to see programming and Computer Science returning to schools&#8217; timetables. I did teach IT but was concerned about being a possible company rep. ie promoting on companies IT software.  </p>
<p>To me programming is the ultimate computer game!!!  Making &#8220;it&#8221; do as it is told even if the task is trivial.</p>
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		<title>By: Yorick Phoenix</title>
		<link>http://closingbraces.net/2010/01/18/in-memory-of-cesil/#comment-4676</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think - and have always felt - that it is important for programmers to understand how computers work and what better way than to start at the machine level with an assembler or a simple simulator like CESIL. I cut my teeth with it in 1975 then went on to Basic, Fortran, PL/1, Z80, Lisp, etc. When I needed to learn 6502, 68000 and work in PowerPC assembly for some interrupt routines I wasn&#039;t phased because I had started at this level. Start at C++ or Java and Assembly or Hardware Interrupts will scare you. You can go higher-level but it is harder to go lower-level if you haven&#039;t already been there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8211; and have always felt &#8211; that it is important for programmers to understand how computers work and what better way than to start at the machine level with an assembler or a simple simulator like CESIL. I cut my teeth with it in 1975 then went on to Basic, Fortran, PL/1, Z80, Lisp, etc. When I needed to learn 6502, 68000 and work in PowerPC assembly for some interrupt routines I wasn&#8217;t phased because I had started at this level. Start at C++ or Java and Assembly or Hardware Interrupts will scare you. You can go higher-level but it is harder to go lower-level if you haven&#8217;t already been there.</p>
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